2004-10-04 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF PEARLAND, TEXAS, HELD ON OCTOBER 4,
2004, AT 6:30 P.M., IN THE SECOND FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM OF CITY
HALL, 3519 LIBERTY DRIVE, PEARLAND, TEXAS
The meeting was called to order at 9:03 p.m. with the following present:
Chairman Ruby Sandars
Vice Chairman Todd locco
Commissioner Neil West
Commissioner Sheryl Greiner
Commissioner Peter Dumont
Secretary Betty Foreman
Absent: Commissioners David Ransom and Joe McWhorter
Also in attendance: Executive Director of Community Services Nick Finan;
Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao; Senior Planner Theresa Grah -nann; City
Engineer Doug Kneupper; and Plan and Plats Administrator Richard Keller.
NEW BUSINESS
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A. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE ACTION — A variance request on behalf of
Keith Faseler, agent for McGuyer Home Builders, Inc., to issue building permits
to construct a Recreation Center and a temporary Sales Center prior to
completion of Avalon Terrace Section One.
Vice Chairman Todd locco made a motion to approve. Commissioner Neil West
seconded.
Plan & Plats Administrator Richard Keller gave a brief history of the area. Mr.
Keller stated this property is in the ETJ (Extra territorial jurisdiction) and normally
the City would not inspect this, but since there is a strategic agreement between
the developer and the City. The City Engineer has outlined two requirements,
one is an all weather access road and no CO's until the infrastructure is
complete.
Vice Chairman Todd locco made an amending motion to approve with Staff's
recommendations. Commissioner Peter Dumont seconded.
Voting "Aye" on the motion to approve Commissioners Sandars, locco, Greiner,
Dumont, and West
Voting "No" None
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Motion Passed 5-0
Commissioner Sheryl Greiner asked if the representative was in the room, and
Ms. Greiner asked if they understood that they would be at risk, and the
representative stated yes, they did understand.
Voting "Aye" on the motion to approve with Staff's recommendations,
Commissioners Sandars, locco, Greiner, Dumont, and West.
Voting "No" None.
Motion Passed 5-0
B. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE ACTION — Final Plat Southway Community
Church, a plat of 6.00 acres of 261 ,155 sq. ft. of land, being part of a 6.6271 acre
tract of land and a part of a 6.1264 acre tract of land out of the James Hamilton
Survey, Abstract No. 881 in Pearland, Harris County, Texas.
Plan & Plats Richard Keller stated this property was in Harris County, on the East
side of SH 288. There were no outstanding items.
Vice Chairman Todd locco made a motion to approve. Commissioner Sheryl
Greiner seconded.
Commissioner Peter Dumont asked if there was another church in the area.
Plan & Plats Administrator Richard Keller stated that the church wanted to add
on, and has to plat the property.
Voting "Aye" Commissioners Sandars, locco, Greiner, Dumont, and West.
Voting "No" None.
Motion passed 5-0
C. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE ACTION — Preliminary Plat of CVS Shadow
Creek Ranch a subdivision of 2.637 acres of land situated in the T. C.R.R. Co.
Survey, Section 3, Abstract 678, and the T.C.R.R. Co. Survey, Section 4,
Abstract 675, Brazoria County, Texas, City of Pearland, Texas
Plan & Plats Administrator Richard Keller stated this was a proposed drug store
in Shadow Creek Ranch. This site was outlined for commercial purposes in the
Shadow Creek PUD. The only item Mr. Keller wanted on the plat is the Joint Use
Agreement that requires access to this property to south.
... Commissioner Sheryl Greiner made a motion to approve with Staff's
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..• recommendations. Vice Chairman Todd locco seconded.
Commissioner Sheryl Greiner asked a representative if he wanted to make a
statement. The representative stated that there was an easement on the east
side; Mr. Keller stated that he wanted to see one on the south side. The
representative stated that was not a problem.
Voting "Aye" Commissioners Sandars, locco, Greiner, Dumont, and West.
Voting "No" None.
Motion passed 5-0
D. CONSIDERATION & POSSIBLE ACTION — Preliminary Plat of Shadow
Creek Ranch Rec. Center No. 4, 2.377 acres being out of the S.G. Haynie
Survey, Abstract 620, City of Pearland, Fort Bend County, Texas
Plan & Plats Administrator Richard Keller stated there were no outstanding items.
Commissioner Sheryl Greiner made a motion to approve. Vice Chairman Todd
locco seconded.
Voting "Aye" Commissioners Sandars, locco, Greiner, Dumont, and West.
Voting "No" None.
Motion passed 5-0
E. DISCUSSION ITEM — Regarding a Proposed Planned Unit Development
District (PUD), changing the zoning from Single Family Dwelling District (R-4) to
a Planned Unit Development District, for a 252 Multi-Family Unit on 29.30 acres,
located generally on the West Side of Future Pearland Parkway, and North of
Industrial Drive.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars stated that she had request a
representative from the legal department to be present. City Attorney Darrin
Coker was present.
Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao gave a description of this proposed PUD
(Planned Unit Development). Ms. Krishnarao showed on the maps the
surrounding areas and what the zoning in the area consisted of. Ms. Krishnarao
stated that recently this property was re-zoned from Multi Family to R-4 zoning.
The reason was the Comprehensive Plan stated that there was enough property
for Multi Family zoning.
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This is a proposed Multi-Family PUD consisting of 252 garden home units. This
would be an active adult 55 and older community consisting of green space,
walking trails, and swimming pool.
Ms. Krishnarao stated that the applicant has stated that the residents would have
access to two 9-acre lakes, but this was not part of the PUD document. The idea
is that each apartment would face open space instead of a parking lot. This
would be built in two phases; 126 units and the amenities would be built first and
the second phase would finish the rest of the apartment homes.
Ms. Krishnarao stated that there are two issues: the density meets the criteria of
the Comprehensive Plan but the use does not. Conformance to the
Thoroughfare plan, the Thoroughfare plan designates south Main Street as a
major thoroughfare requiring 120 ft right of way, and at the time of platting, that
dedication would be required.
Staff comments include clarification of the net density, the PUD document states
the 30 acres of green area include the 9 acre spring fed lake, this is not part of
the property, Staff is asking about usage rights. The parking is not clear, and
would have to be discussed.
Another concern of Staff that the PUD states all units will have Front porches, but
some units along the northern and southern property line, that will not happen.
The setback along the northern units is 15 ft setback, and the southern units will
have 10 ft setback.
Staff does need a landscaping plan; treatment and materials use in common and
open space in a schematic. This was not included in the PUD document. Staff
needs to know what type of landscaping is being proposed. Another issue is the
treatment of the perimeter fences, what types of fences are being proposed, the
fence height and what types of screening is being proposed.
The applicant is proposing a Neo-traditional design.
Staff does need more information because Neo-traditional generally includes
mixed uses, walk able communities, variety of elevations. Some of the details
need to be in the PUD at least in the conceptual level. Staff would like to see
what they are proposing.
Some information Staff would like to see: whether or not this is a gated
community, private streets, need to see the calculations for density, a TIA (Traffic
Impact Analysis) may be required at time of platting.
City Attorney Darrin Coker stated that everyone needs to remember what took
place to get to this place. Council was aware of that Ms. West wanted to build
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,,. these Multi Family garden style apartments. When Council changed this zoning
to R-4 from Multi-Family, they were aware this PUD would be coming.
A discussion ensued among the Planning & Zoning Commissioners and the City
Attorney regarding the possible noise issue by building residential next to
industrial. Mr. Coker stated that that noise related complaints would have to be
addressed at such time when the complaints are made.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars stated that she would like to hear
from the applicant, answers to questions that were raised.
Renee West stated that she and her staff had been out to the property during the
day to address the noise issue and had not noticed the noise levels. Ms. West
stated that the plan was to build a concrete fence around the property that abuts
against the industrial, and possible plant tall trees to buffer the sound.
Commissioner Todd locco asked if there could be a 6 ft. masonry fence along
that part of the property. Ms. West indicated that might be possible.
There was a discussion among the Planning & Zoning Commiss'oners, the City
Attorney, and the Executive Director of Community Services in regard to
requiring in the PUD that this would be a 55 and older community.
Questions from the Planning & Zoning Commissioners include: Commissioner
Peter Dumont's questions were: where is the nearest medical facility, a
discrepancy in the amount of square footage of the apartments between a couple
of the pages in the PUD document. The concept map shows the swimming pool
at the farthest end from the apartments, and at least a quarter of a mile walk to
the pool, the question is the parking around the pool for those residents who
choose not to walk. Mr. Dumont stated that he feels the recreation center and
the swimming pool should be more centrally located or possibly have two.
Terry Brooks stated that this was an active 55 and older community, and no
would probably be walking to the pool in the hottest part of the day.
Renee West also stated that the residents would have access to the lakes on the
next property. Commissioner Peter Dumont asked what type of lake it was. Ms
West stated that it was a sand pit lake with an artesian well. Ms. West also
stated that there would be an agreement between Forgotten Angels and the
apartment complex to allow the residents access.
Commissioner Sheryl Greiner stated that she concurred with the Staff's
comments. Ms. Greiner's questions are:
1. Reduce the density
2. Not address the exit routes appropriately. She does not believe they
should rely on the Industrial Drive, as an exit route was a good idea. It
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appears to be only 1 way in or out. She thinks they should block off
Industrial Drive.
Aaron McGuire stated that the Fire Marshall stated they would not
need 2 exits if they would use 100% sprinkle, which they are planning.
3. What would be the lot coverage
4. What ordinances would they be building to?
Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao stated that this would be a MF PUD
and they meet all the requirements of an R-4 the only difference is
these are apartments.
5. A noise agreement or a sound barrier would be needed.
Commissioner Todd locco stated that the documentation was weak. The fencing
to the south that is adjacent to the industrial should be at least 8 ft masonry, and
could not support it if that was not requirement. City Attorney Darrin Coker
stated that the Commission needs to be specific in the type and height of the
fence. Ms. Krishnarao asked what extent did the Commissioners want to see.
Commissioner locco stated all along the edge of industrial zone.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars stated that all the Commissioners
were in agreement to put in the wall.
'o. Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao asked the Commissioners exactly where did
they wish to see the wall. Commissioner Todd locco stated that he felt it should
be along the area adjoining the industrial area, which is along the southern and
western boundaries.
Commissioner Todd locco asked Ms. West why did they place the road through
the middle of a piece of commercial property. Ms. West stated in the future there
might be a medical facility or an assisted living on the commercial property, so
that would be all tied together.
Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao asked for a clarification on the phasing plan,
the Commissioners stated that all the greenbelt and the sidewalks would be built
during phase one.
Commissioner Peter Dumont asked Ms. Krishnarao to clarify the Neo-Traditional
concept. Mr. Dumont did not see what made it different than any other
development. Ms. Krishnarao stated she did not know and that was why there
needed to be clarification. Executive Director of Community Services Nick Finan
asked if this would be a condition to get this PUD approved. Ms. Krishnarao
explained the difference between Neo-Traditional developments versus a regular
development. A discussion commenced among Staff and the Commissioners
regarding the Neo-Traditional development and how much detail would be
required in the PUD document.
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Commissioner Todd locco stated he felt the recreation center should be more
centrally located.
There was discussion among Staff and the Commissioners regarding pedestrian
gates, and the location of the recreation center.
Commissioner Neil West stated that he had a concern regarding the parking.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars asked if the followings questions
could be clarified:
1 . Density — is that gross or net
Ms. West stated that she could not answer that at this time.
2. Document states the residents would have a 30 acre green area and a
9-acre lake — do the Commissioners want restrictions as to who used
this.
Mr. Finan stated that if the lake had not been mentioned would this be
a condition of not approving the PUD. Chairperson Sandars asked if
Mr. Finan as renter and was told that there would be access to a 9
acre lake would that deter him from renting. The Commissioners feel
that this was presented as an amenity, and should be stated in the
PUD document.
3. There were 44 parking spaces required for the clubhouse and Ms.
West has proposed 15 parking spaces.
Commissioner Peter Dumont asked why would this be any different
from any other development. Terry Brooks stated this was a private
clubhouse and there may not be that many cars using the spaces. A
discussion ensued between the applicant and the Commissioners
regarding the number of parking spaces that would be required or
needed, and there was a discussion of what makes up a 55 and older
community. The decision from the Commissioners was for Staff to
research this issue.
4. Setback on the Southern side of the property — do the Commissioners
want that to be 20 ft as is what the other side has, and the applicant is
showing 10 ft. A question was raised regarding if easement is
required.
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Ms. Krishnarao stated that the easement only applies to the northern
part not the south. Ms. Krishnarao stated it might be easier to state
al 0 ft setback from the wall on the southern edge.
5. Site plan showing the general landscaping, showing the materials
used. The Commissioners all concurred.
6. Provide a plan showing the treatment of the perimeter of the PUD and
a picture. The Commissioners all concurred.
7. A conceptual rendering of the proposed development. Commissioner
Greiner stated the applicant was missing in Chapter 19, page 61 — the
quantitative data was missing, and on page 62 & 63, II site plan, covered
with the landscape plan with section H and Section I. The commissioners
all concurred.
8. Need a statement in the PUD to establish the streets in the
development are private or public.
9. Is this a gated community? Ms. Krishnarao stated that that was just a
question. Chairman Sandars stated that if it were to be gated it should
be stated.
10. MF PUD versus a straight PUD — Ms. Krishanaro stated that it would
be easier if just stated as a straight PUD. The Commissioners agree
that it should be a straight PUD instead of a MF PUD.
11 . Add note that if something is not covered in the PUD it is addressed
in the Ordinances.
12. The applicant needs to clarify if it is 28.7 acres versus 29.3 acres.
13. State what material to be used on the walking path — Ms. West stated
concrete and pavers. Planning & Zoning Chairperson Sandars stated
that needs to be stated in the PUD.
14. Address covered parking — if having covered parking needs to show it
in the PUD document.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars asked the applicant if they had
any comments. Ms. West stated that they were sorry the PUD was not more
complete. Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars stated that this was
exciting to see this type of PUD coming forth and this was not another cookie
cutter development, with a lot of green space.
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Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars asked Ms. Krishnarao if there
were any questions on what the Commissioners want. Ms. Sandars stated that
the Commissioners would like to see this PUD document before it goes to Joint
Public Hearing. Ms. Sandars stated that what she is observing that what the
Planning & Zoning Commission sees and what goes before Council are two
different documents.
Executive Director of Community Services Nick Finan stated that Joint Public
Hearing that gives the Commissioners to tell Council that this was what is
important to Planning & Zoning and the PUD is not what they had discussed.
This tells Council that there are missing items and the Council can decide what is
important to them. The Commissioners feel that sometimes what is discussed
among their meeting is not being presented to Council.
Planning & Zoning Chairperson Ruby Sandars asked if the Commissioners
wanted to address the deed restrictions. The consensus among the
Commissioners is the deed restrictions were important prior to the acceptance of
the PUD document.
The commissioners feel that the deed restrictions are important in the PUD. Also
Planning Manager Lata Krishnarao asked about the park fees or park dedication.
NEXT MEETING DATES: October 18, 2004 — JPH & Regular P & Z
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' November 1 , 2004 — Regular P & Z
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:56 p.m.
These minutes respectfully submitted by:
BettyFore an, ®tannin & Zoning Secretary
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Minutes approved as submitted and/or corrected on this (i day of
DOrtq•nba• , 2004.
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